Kmicic Deep Sweet Flat Ride 23” Bronze with 2 rivetsKmicic Deep Sweet Flat Ride 23 Bronze 2 rivets These two cymbals took a tremendous amount of workburning, hammering, lathing, and repeating the cycle several times to achieve exactly what you hear: the K sound. Im not sure if Im expressing it correctly, but in Polish, thats how we describe it. Besides that, the rivets that sizzle for two entire tracks, the sweetness, the precise definitionand on top of it all, they look absolutely stunning. only two